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  • 1.  CVP ANALYSIS QUESTIONS

    Posted 06-03-2013 12:41 PM
    HI GUYS IN QUESTION 18. WHY THEY ARE TAKING DISTRIBUTION CHARGES 0F 0.75 IN VARIABLE COST? GENERALLY DISTRIBUTION IS WITH SELLING EXPENSES. IN QUESTION 19. WHATS MEANT BY THIS "TO INCREASE THE EXISTING PROFIT BY 30000" TO ME IT IS TO INCREASE THE EXISTING PROFIT BY 30000, LIKE IF YOU HAVE 18000 THEN IT SHOULD BE 48000 PROFIT BUT IN THIS CASE THEY ARE JUST TAKING PROFIT AFTER TAX 30000 DUE TO THIS BOOK ANSWER IS WRONG, IS IT? GUYS PLEASE CHECK IT AND LET ME KNOW. CHECK THE ATTACHMENT. THANKS -- *Regards Muzahir*


  • 2.  RE:CVP ANALYSIS QUESTIONS

    Posted 06-03-2013 09:58 PM
    No any attachment? Please send it again. Thanks

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    Kam Sing LEUNG CFP, CPA, FCCA
    Controller
    Total Solution Consultancy (Hangzhou) Limited
    Hangzhou
    China
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  • 3.  RE: CVP ANALYSIS QUESTIONS

    Posted 06-04-2013 02:46 AM
    Sorry Guys i couldn't attach file, it's attached now Let me know if someone don't see any attachment. Regards muzahir On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Kam Sing LEUNG wrote: > > No any attachment? Please send it again. Thanks > > ------------------------------------------- > Kam Sing LEUNG CFP, CPA, FCCA > Controller > Total Solution Consultancy (Hangzhou) Limited > Hangzhou > China > ------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > Original Message: > Sent: 06-03-2013 03:28 AM > From: Muzahir Agha > Subject: CVP ANALYSIS QUESTIONS > > HI GUYS > > IN QUESTION 18. WHY THEY ARE TAKING DISTRIBUTION CHARGES 0F 0.75 IN > VARIABLE COST? GENERALLY DISTRIBUTION IS WITH SELLING EXPENSES. > IN QUESTION 19. WHATS MEANT BY THIS "TO INCREASE THE EXISTING PROFIT BY > 30000" TO ME IT IS TO INCREASE THE EXISTING PROFIT BY 30000, LIKE IF YOU > HAVE 18000 THEN IT SHOULD BE 48000 PROFIT BUT IN THIS CASE THEY ARE JUST > TAKING PROFIT AFTER TAX 30000 DUE TO THIS BOOK ANSWER IS WRONG, IS IT? > GUYS > PLEASE CHECK IT AND LET ME KNOW. CHECK THE ATTACHMENT. > THANKS > > -- > *Regards > Muzahir* > > > > > > >


  • 4.  RE:CVP ANALYSIS QUESTIONS

    Posted 06-04-2013 03:11 AM
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    Hi guys i hope you will see the attachment this time.
    Regards

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    Muzahir Agha

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  • 5.  RE:CVP ANALYSIS QUESTIONS

    Posted 06-04-2013 04:12 AM

    The cost information as given in the Q17 as related to the product include: DM$3.25, DL$4, Distribution $.75. Selling and distribution can be either variable or fixed, or both in nature, depending on how the information is defined. 

    Your understanding is correct. Per the given answer, Q18 seems to be an individual question which has not been directly linked to the answer of Q17. The answer as given just take $30,000 as the after tax profit and then work it back to a before tax profit figure for computation purpose.  

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    Kam Sing LEUNG CFP, CPA, FCCA
    Controller
    Total Solution Consultancy (Hangzhou) Limited
    Hangzhou
    China
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  • 6.  RE:CVP ANALYSIS QUESTIONS

    Posted 06-05-2013 02:11 AM

    Hello Muzahir,

    In Q#17, you asked why distribution charges of $0.75 was included in the unit variable cost total, arguing that distribution charges are supposedly selling expenses.

    You are correct in saying that distribution charges are selling expenses, but you need to note that even general, admin and other operating expenses should be included in the calculation of the unit variable cost, IF they are indeed variable expenses. Stated differently, there are fixed selling, general and admin expenses, as well as variable selling, general and admin expenses.

    I believe you are mixing "Variable Cost" with "Product Cost", that is why you think distribution charges (a variable selling exp) should NOT be included.

    In Q#18, once again your understanding is correct, but, in this particular problem, it is necessary to assume that the reckoning point of the after-tax profit of $30,000 must have been the break-even point due to lack of information that says otherwise. While the starting point wasn't mentioned, it could be inferred from the given facts.

    I hope this helps.


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    Angel Secerio CMA, CPA
    Director/Manager
    Insights Financial Review Services Inc
    Makati City
    Philippines
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  • 7.  RE:CVP ANALYSIS QUESTIONS

    Posted 06-05-2013 03:26 PM

    Afternoon...  The following is excerpted from my cost accounting seminar text...  I can send you a protected copy of the seminar if you think it would be helpful...  I discuss various scenarios for planning and analysis in the text..

    dougsledge@...

    thanks...

    Sledge

    Cost-Volume-Profit..  aka: Break Even Analysis

     

    Cost relationships and concepts are basic tools for management control at every operational level. Understanding the principles of cost-volume-profit (CVP) interactions (aka: break even analysis) is key to effective cost management for all business disciplines... sales, production inventory control, finance, accounting, to name a few....  A discussion of CVP (break-even analysis) follows. Let's review some terminology to enhance understanding of the concepts..

     

    TERM:  Variable Costs are those costs which change in direct relation to, and as a result of, changes in cost object activity, within the relevant range of activity.  This cost object activity is different for different businesses...  Examples include:

     
    • Production cost for manufacturing
    • Installation and service cost for HVAC and other and service operations.
    • Feet drilled direct cost in a energy field drilling operation.
    • Material cost for merchandising
    • Percentage based sales commissions

     

    TERM:  Fixed Costs are those costs which do not change as a direct result of cost object activity. ... Facility rental, static salary based payroll,  periodic depreciation, etc.

     

    TERM:  Relevant Range of Activity...  That operational range of cost activity, within which the company should expect to operate, and within which, variable cost relationships and fixed costs remain reasonably stable (constant).

     

    Intuitively we know that the generalized sales/profit equation looks like:

     

    Profit = Sales - Expense

     

    Or:... transposing and restated....

     

    Sales = Profit + Expense

     

    If we further define expense as having both fixed and variable components:

     

    Total Expense = Fixed Expense + Variable Expense

    Then....

     

    Sales = Profit + Fixed Expense (cost) + Variable Expense (cost)

     

    Sales = Profit + FC + VC

     

    It follows that at breakeven sales, there will be no profit:

     

    SBE = zero profit + FC + VC

    SBE = FC + VC

     

    It is reasonable to assume that sales activity will parallel production (cost) activity if inventory levels and mix remain unchanged.  Let's make such an assumption.  Deductive reasoning then draws the conclusion that variable costs can be expressed as a direct ratio (percentage, decimal, fraction...) of sales dollars.... Since variable costs change linearly with activity...  this is analogous to material used in manufacturing... the same material cost for each unit of the same item produced...

     

    We qualify the breakeven equation as:

     

    SBE= FC+ VC

     

    Where FC is constant (rent), and VC (unit material) can be stated as a direct ratio of sales.



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    Douglas Sledge CMA, CPA, CGMA
    Executive Officer
    Douglas A Sledge Management Accountant
    Farmers Branch TX
    United States
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  • 8.  RE: CVP ANALYSIS QUESTIONS

    Posted 06-07-2013 10:11 AM
    Hi Douglas Thanks to send me the protected copy of the seminar, i will go through the text. Regards Muzahir On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Douglas Sledge wrote: > > > Afternoon... The following is excerpted from my cost accounting seminar > text... I can send you a protected copy of the seminar if you think it > would be helpful... I discuss various scenarios for planning and analysis > in the text.. > > dougsledge@...@...> > > thanks... > > Sledge > > Cost-Volume-Profit.. aka: Break Even Analysis > Cost relationships and concepts are basic tools for management control > at every operational level. Understanding the principles of > cost-volume-profit (CVP) interactions (aka: break even analysis) is key to > effective cost management for all business disciplines... sales, production > inventory control, finance, accounting, to name a few.... A discussion of > CVP (break-even analysis) follows. Let's review some terminology to enhance > understanding of the concepts.. > > TERM: Variable Costs are those costs which change in direct relation to, > and as a result of, changes in cost object activity, within the relevant > range of activity. This cost object activity is different for different > businesses... Examples include: > > Production cost for manufacturing > Installation and service cost for HVAC and other and service operations. > Feet drilled direct cost in a energy field drilling operation. > Material cost for merchandising > Percentage based sales commissions > TERM: Fixed Costs are those costs which do not change as a direct result > of cost object activity. ... Facility rental, static salary based payroll, > periodic depreciation, etc. > > TERM: Relevant Range of Activity... That operational range of cost > activity, within which the company should expect to operate, and within > which, variable cost relationships and fixed costs remain reasonably stable > (constant). > Intuitively we know that the generalized sales/profit equation looks > like: > Profit = Sales - Expense > Or:... transposing and restated.... > Sales = Profit + Expense > If we further define expense as having both fixed and variable > components: > Total Expense = Fixed Expense + Variable Expense > Then.... > Sales = Profit + Fixed Expense (cost) + Variable Expense (cost) > Sales = Profit + FC + VC > It follows that at breakeven sales, there will be no profit: > SBE = zero profit + FC + VC > SBE = FC + VC > It is reasonable to assume that sales activity will parallel production > (cost) activity if inventory levels and mix remain unchanged. Let's make > such an assumption. Deductive reasoning then draws the conclusion that > variable costs can be expressed as a direct ratio (percentage, decimal, > fraction...) of sales dollars.... Since variable costs change linearly with > activity... this is analogous to material used in manufacturing... the > same material cost for each unit of the same item produced... > > We qualify the breakeven equation as: > SBE= FC+ VC > > Where FC is constant (rent), and VC (unit material) can be stated as a > direct ratio of sales. > > > ------------------------------------------- > Douglas Sledge CMA, CPA, CGMA > Executive Officer > Douglas A Sledge Management Accountant > Farmers Branch TX > United States > ------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > Original Message: > Sent: 06-03-2013 03:28 AM > From: Muzahir Agha > Subject: CVP ANALYSIS QUESTIONS > > HI GUYS > > IN QUESTION 18. WHY THEY ARE TAKING DISTRIBUTION CHARGES 0F 0.75 IN > VARIABLE COST? GENERALLY DISTRIBUTION IS WITH SELLING EXPENSES. > IN QUESTION 19. WHATS MEANT BY THIS "TO INCREASE THE EXISTING PROFIT BY > 30000" TO ME IT IS TO INCREASE THE EXISTING PROFIT BY 30000, LIKE IF YOU > HAVE 18000 THEN IT SHOULD BE 48000 PROFIT BUT IN THIS CASE THEY ARE JUST > TAKING PROFIT AFTER TAX 30000 DUE TO THIS BOOK ANSWER IS WRONG, IS IT? > GUYS > PLEASE CHECK IT AND LET ME KNOW. CHECK THE ATTACHMENT. > THANKS > > -- > *Regards > Muzahir* > > > > > > >